Kapag nagdeathblow ka ng Lapiz or Osm Blade,masakit lang yan kung nagcrit pero kapag hindi nagcrit ung bawas mo sa kalaban mo hindi masakit, Ang crit kasi chances lang yan,well other players cant afford to take chances just like me.

Kapag nag Mith crystal +6+7ssa at Mith blade+6+7ssa obviously masakit ang Base dmg nyan kahit hindi magcrit solve na solve ang dmg mo, well kapag nagcrit naman solid na solid ung dmg mo sa kalaban mo.


well depende nalang kung wat gusto mo paps, I have given u options to choose from the both, you just have to know wat do you realy like .If you are not afraid of taking chances go with deathblows, but if you cant take chances go for mith items.


Heres an Item for your build kung nagmith ka:
Mith blade+6+7ssa or Mith blade+6+10cdi
Mith Crystal+6+7ssa or Mith crystal+6+10cdi
Osm armorhelm of deathblow+7+36cdi
Osm armorgloves+7+7ssa or ST armorgloves+7/8+7ssa
Osm Armorboots+7+7ssa or ST armor boots+7/8+7ssa
Osm Armorsuit+7+7ssa+50hp
Amulet of pain+5
ring of luck+1 2x
Ring of Fighter+9 2x
Epaulet of Fighter+7
sloted Bracelet of Figter+3 [3ssa] 2x
sloted Earing of guard+ 3 [+2 def] 2x

If deathblow naman:
OSm blade of Deathblow+7+36cdi
Lapiz Crystal of Deathblow+7+36cdi
Osm armorhelm of deathblow+7+36cdi
Osm armorgloves+7+7ssa or ST armorgloves+7/8+7ssa
Osm Armorboots+7+7ssa or ST armor boots+7/8+7ssa
Osm Armorsuit+7+7ssa+50hp
Amulet of pain+5
ring of luck+1 2x
Crit ring+2 2x
Epaulet of Fighter+7
sloted Bracelet of Figter+3 [3ssa] 2x
sloted Earing of guard+ 3 [+2 def]


yan po may dalawang pagpipilian ka na kung wat build gusto mo:

For DPS killing of the oponents: use the build for mith items
For Faster Killing of the oponents lets say 1 or 2 hits: Use deathblow build

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KUYA ASK KO LNG..... UNG SSA DB VISIBLE UN KPAG NORMAL DMG? E PANO PAG NGCRIT... PPTONG DIN B UNG DMG NG SSA???"


Ung ssa kasi ang dumadagdag un sa normal dmg ,dba kapag tinignan mo ung basic mo may makikita kang

attack: kunwari 1000 attack( may additional attack dito dba)

ung ssa kapag inobserve mo 1000(dito sa additional attack dumadagdag ang ssa)

ang 1%ssa= ay katumbas ng 6 additional attack

so kaya masakit ang bawas nun kasi mataas ung base dmg nya ok

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my question is like this.... what if my crit is at 3k as we say, if i will wear ssa 7%.. would that increase my 3k crit??

pero mas masakit parin ang crit ng db.. yan ang advantage nya!..
crit is the only and ulitmate key to ownage!!!!!.. kaya ill take my chance of deathblows instead of mith weaps ^_^

panzit! which 1 you prefer? crit ring+1 or rof+9?

no it does not increase your CDI, it only increases the additional attack dmg dealt upon your oponent,
if you want to increase the crit add more Critical damage .

Follow the build on what i have suggested on deathblow items, that kind of items will make ur CDi more higher.

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so u mean.. those amps just work with normal attcks? is that right? isnt it if u increase ur attck.. then ur cdi increases? i thought not just cdi are the ones who increases critical dmg....

No doubt sir na mas masakit parin ang crit sa Deathblow, but lets say pano kapag hindi nagcrit ,so mababa naman bawas mo sa kalaban mo, yan disadvantage ng Deathblow sir,

Well if your Looking for the key to ownage, its not really deathblow sir:

the key for ownage is that, you should have high attack and at the same time high critical damge.
ur attack should at least be 1000 attack, and your critical is at least 150cdi up,in that way an ultimate ownage will be done sir

150critical damage for all your items ,buffs, and the base critical damge+100cdi on your completer skill that will make it 250 critical damge.

1000 attack for your buff,epaulet and weapons

you got it right sir, its just for normal attacks, pero ang maganda sir kapag hindi nagcrit ang skills mo masasalo ng normal dmg mo ung bawas na nawala sa hindi pagcrit.example, ung Shiel Splinter mo lang nagcrit tapos ung other skills mo hindi nagcrit so kung baga mapupunan nya ung mga skills na walang crit, in that way mahahabol mo ung bawas mo sa kalaban mo.

There is no effect on the crit sir even if you increase ur attack,
Attack is for normal damage and
Critical damge Items is for increasing the critical damge dealt upon the oponents

pero kung talgang gusto mo tumaas ang critical damage mo sir, pataasin mo lang ung cdi sa mga items mo,
follow mo nalang ung build sa Deathblow dun sa suggestion ko na mga items meron nakalagay dun,


bale ang nacompute ko kapag pinalow mo ang deathblow items :
ang CDI sa items mo is 208critical damage+ ung skill mo sa completer na 100cdi,bale total ng cdi kapag nagcrit ka sa kalaban mo is 308 cdi. super hapdi na po sa kalaban mo un, un lang kung nagcrit po ang Shield Splinter mo.


pero kung ang build mo ay ung mith
ang total cdi sa items is 156cdi + ung completer na may 100cdi , bale total ng cdi kapag nagcrit is 256
decenteng dmg na un sa kalaban mo mahapdi na din.eh kung ung weapons ay mitril +6+10cdi po

pero kung napili mo ung mith weapons+6+7ssa ang total cdi mo sa items mo is 136CDI ,so kapag nagcrit ang Shield splinter bale ung total mo is 236 CDI.

kaw na po magdecide if what po mas gusto mo, just let me know kung ano pa mga katungan mo at ung nagustuhan mong build .

It defends on what you are sir if your crit defendent go for crit ring+1
But if not Go for rof+9

Crit ring+1 adds 10 cdi only
Rof+9 adds 5 cdi ,10 attack,16defens

obviously ROF+9 is much better that crit ring+1

attck can ups your cdi..... i just used my mb at sod... the crit dmg when i dont have mb is 1000+ but when i have mb.. my crit is ranging from 1300 to 1400 ;p it means attck boosts also cdi...

Simply put,

Base Damage - Def x [1 + CDI] = Total Damage Dealt

Note: Add CDI if the attack happens to be critical. Base Damage includes Attack, Skill Amplification, Add Damage Bonus.

In Addition, I find using 1 Mithril Weapon makes my skill less miss on target. Just an observation. That's why I say NO to Titanium and Pherystin Tier Weapons even perfect CDI and can easily extended.

what do you mena base dmg? how can i get that? -def? def of the enemy or mine???O_o

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DEF of your target.

Use this for simulation. It's accurate and fun to use.

Cabal Damage Calculator by Demosai

d best pa den mith weapon SSA even d mag crit masakit pa den, lalo na pag nag crit mas masakit basta ma raise mu sa 140cdi mo

so much better ung mith orb+6 +7%ssa sa +7/+6 lapis xtal+30cdi???

u can only choose orbs when you are going to shift to MFS,but if you dont plan on shifting to MFS
its better if you choose crystal, to fully maximize your STR

Hmmm if thats the case, i would rather choose perfect deathblow items

Osm blade of deathblow +6+36cdi
Lapiz crystal of deathblow+6+36cdi
Osm armorhelm of deathblow+7+36cdi
Crit ring+2 2x
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a total of 203 cdi plus the cdi on your completer skill which is 100= the total will be 303 cdi when it crit

tanong ko lang

ito po items ko
MIth katana +6 10% CDI
MIth Orb +6 7% SSA
Osm gloves & boots +7 7% SSA
OSM armor Suit +6 7% SSA 50HP
Osm Armorhelm 30% CDI
BOF+3 Slotted 2 pcs
AOB+8
FRE+4
ROL+1 & Crit Ring +1 2 pcs each

ok na po ba yan?

okay, let me put this straight, force shielders should place preference on deathblow items rather than ssa items. why? kase ang mga force shielders ay hindi maxadong mataas ang base damage AT ang mga force shielders, tulad ng mga force bladers, ay designed to inflict critical damage.

SSA items work best sa mga classes na may mataas na base damage tulad ng bladers at warriors. limit your force shielder's use of ssa sa boots, suit, at gloves (kase wala nmng deathblow items na mga ganito kaya ssa kunin nyo) and place preference on deathblow items sa weapons,at helmet.

DB ang i-prefer nyo para mas maintensify ang Shield splinter nyo. ilagay nyo sa isip nyo na dapat ang critical rate ng isang shielder ay abot sa 50% or more than that AT dapat mataas ang critical damage nyo.

its is actually true that ssa can increase your CD pero its will be smaller compared to that of a CDI item. critical damage kase is actually (kapag base crit damage ha) is damage + .20damage. hababang pinatapataas mo ung base damage mo it follows tataas din ang crit damage mo.. pero mas maganda shortcut: pataasin mu n lng ng diretso ang crit damage mu d b?

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@TS:kuya bkt wala sa option ang DB na topaz xtal/orb and red osm blade/katana???

sir palitan nyo ung ung katana nyo ng blade at ung orb nyo ng crystal,
tapos ung helm nyo palitan nyo ng perfect cdi na +7
kung kaya mo ng rof+9 , mas ok po kung ganun mas malaki ung lamang ng rof+9 sa crit ring+1
tapos ung suit nyo palitan nyo ng +7 para mas malaki konte ang def mo

sir lagi nyo tatandaan kung ano ang napili nyong class bago kau magdecide kung anong weapons ang pipiliin nyo

If STR type or sord po kau, mas ok ang blade at crystal para hindi masira ang build nyo
Kung Inte typ naman sir pwede na po ung katana at orb kasi malaki ang magic attack
Kung Hybrid naman po ok na po yang weapons nyo

kasi mababa ung base damage po nila, tignan nyo ung dagdag ng attack nila. kung titignan mo lang sa cdi sa pagpili ng mga weapons mo baka kulangin ka po sa damage kapag hindi po nagcrit.

unlike mitril po laki ng dagdag ng attack nya,kahit hindi ka na magcrit ok lang, kasi nga kung nabasa mo ung unang sinabi ung crit kasi chances lang un

sau na din nanggaling na hindi po mataas maxado ang base dmg nila, so hindi ko na kailangan iexplain kung bat ssa ang gamit, Ang intension po dito is para hindi umasa ang isang player sa chances lang, kaya nga po may dalawang pagpipilian , at kaya din may dalawang comparison kasi kau na po bahala kung anu mas prefered nyo, dis is just a pure comparison of how cdi and SSa works po.


Sir i do not agree sa sinabi mo na DB lang ang iprefer nyo, well kaya nga po may dalawang linagay na build para kung ano ang mas gusto nyo sa dalawa dun ang magiging choices, kung iisa lang maiiprefer pano ung gustong mag ssa at pano ung nagtataka sa kaibahan ng SSa at deathblow, Atsaka hindi lang naman ang shield splinter ang gnagamit na skill at kailangan ientensify, pano yan kapag hindi magcrit, anung silbi po ng 200 cdi na nameet nyo kung mababa naman ang base dmg nyo, kaya nga po sinabi na its ur choice kung wat suit you best, kasi kung alin ang mas gusto nyo na build dun po kau,


put this in your mind sir, CDi masakit lang kung nagcrit, pero kung hindi nagcrit mababa dmg mo.

SSA masakit din yan kapag nagcrit, kahit d nagcrit mahapdi parin yan sa kalaban kasi lumaki ung attack mo.

sa DB option po ang tinatanong ko.. may mith at DB options kase..

bkt d na lang topaz at red osmium DB kesa sa option nila na DB lapiz at osmium???

well.. kung tlgang naguguluhan ka kung anu maganda wepz mo.. gan2 ung i buy mo..

Spoiler for '"BLADE"':

Spoiler for '"CRYSTAL"':

if you can't choose between deathblow or SSA.. then have both..

kung may topaz perfect CDI deathblow at Perfect Red osm CDI deathblow, dun ka na lalo na kung +7 ung dalawang weapons na un , pero kung wala dun ka muna sa lapiz at osm DB perfect Cdi,

Ung deathblow option kasi more on CDI kung aling weapons or items na nakakadagdag ng CDI dun ka, since crit typ ka , d mo kailangan ng mataas na Attack, ang mas importante kung crit typ is yung CRitical Damage Increase na nakalagay sa items.

kaya wala sa choices ung topaz at redosm kasi ang madalas na meron lang is ung topaz na may 26cdi lang or d kaya ung redosm na 27 cdi.pero kung may lumabas na perfect 2 slot DB CDI un nalang buy mo .saka mo i+7 para malaki konte ung attack mo

Maganda po ang gamit na yan, pero icipin mo naman kung hanggang saan lang ung ibang mga players. Masyodo na mahal yan kung yan pa bibilhin nila. Well kung mayaman ka Y not ,go for that weapons.

Pero sa katulad kong player dun nalang ako sa Perfect DB na Lapiz at Osm mas abot ko pa un kaysa dyan sa sinasuggest mo.

instead of buying perfect db[2] 36% cdi osm and lapis weps w/c costs around 1b (it costs 1.2b here in our server), y not go for a +7 osm/lapis perfect db[1] 26% cdi and a SEH? i don't know how much would that be in your server but here in ours, a +7 osm/lapis perfect db[1] 26% cdi costs around 300m (+6 costs only a mere 140m) and an SEH at 1.2b, better than a perfect db [2].. even if both were extended, the 2 slot perfect db would have only a maximum cdi of 41% while the 1 slotted perfect db will have a 40% cdi..

however, the story changes if you have a CRI enchant on the 2 slotted perfect db

SEH cost 1.5b
OSm and Lapiz db+7 +26cdi[1slot]= 300m

total is :1.8b
Perfect CDI lapiz and Osm =1.2-1.5b

which is cheaper: i would go for perfect 2 sloted deathblow rather than your suggestion
same performance din naman and if your tired of playing then you can sell the items unlike those items that are binded you cannot sell it. get my point sir

you can still sell those items via acct transfer.. and IMHO.. a lot of players preferred extended 1 slotted perfect db weapons rather than 2 slotted perfect db weapons..

sa market kasi nmin lagi ko nakikita mga 2 slotted perfect db wepz.. meaning hindi sya madalas mabili..

ung mga 1 slotted perfect db eh mdalang ko makita at kung makita ko man eh ang bilis mwala..

i get ur point.. i was just expressing what i think would be better..

so my question is.. do you get mine? cheers..!!

You can still sell it pero mahihirapan ka maghanap ng buyer,account bind kasi at kailangan pa nilang bumili ng account transfer para mabili ung item,eh d dagdag gastos pa un, kompare mo sa perfect 2 slot d na nila kailangan bumili 1 click lang sa auction aun na sa kanila na ung items., .kung mas prefered nila ang extended at madami silang alz or PHP ,y not go for it . Since madami ka sigurong alz at mayaman ka kaya nasusugest mo yan. Anyway kanya kanya naman kung wat mas prefered nila. Basta Economy is Economy.

You can still sell it pero mahihirapan ka maghanap ng buyer,account bind kasi at kailangan pa nilang bumili ng account transfer para mabili ung item,eh d dagdag gastos pa un, kompare mo sa perfect 2 slot d na nila kailangan bumili 1 click lang sa auction aun na sa kanila na ung items., .kung mas prefered nila ang extended at madami silang alz or PHP ,y not go for it . Since madami ka sigurong alz at mayaman ka kaya nasusugest mo yan. Anyway kanya kanya naman kung wat mas prefered nila. Basta Economy is Economy.

You can still sell it pero mahihirapan ka maghanap ng buyer,account bind kasi at kailangan pa nilang bumili ng account transfer para mabili ung item,eh d dagdag gastos pa un, kompare mo sa perfect 2 slot d na nila kailangan bumili 1 click lang sa auction aun na sa kanila na ung items., .kung mas prefered nila ang extended at madami silang alz or PHP ,y not go for it . Since madami ka sigurong alz at mayaman ka kaya nasusugest mo yan. Anyway kanya kanya naman kung wat mas prefered nila. Basta Economy is Economy.

definitely.. ur attack boosts ur cdi aside from the percentage u have.. ssa/attack becomes the MULTIPLIER of cdi.. that's why,mas recommend ko ang halong SSA at DB as weapons.. ^_^

eto akin...try nyo...

EOF +7
Board +hp +def
AOB +9
FRE +6 x2
BOF +3 [1] x2
ROL +1 x2
Crit Ring +2 x2

Mith blade SSA +6
Lapiz crystal DB +7 36%CDI
Osm armorSuit +7 ssa hp
Mith gaunlets SSA +6
Mith Buts SSA +6
osm armorhelm DB +7 36%CDI

HP rune lvl15 @ 250hp

HP: 3,904
Meimey
Level 167
SFS
Jupiter
PrisonersOfWar

i'll go for Mith blade tpos crystal DB na lapis +7

kaya pla d kita matalo yn pala items mo

I'll take the chances, i'll choose Deathblows.
Sa FS nga naman, bihira lang ang di mag crit. Kasi in-born na sa buffs natin ang CRI.
Lalo na ngayon na may Megaderph Ring na at 4 slot rings.
Mas prefer ko parin DBs.

well .. kahit mith weaps SSA ang equip kapag hindi ka nag crit di ka parin mamananalo.. diba???..
and besides aabot talaga 1000 above attack mo dahil sa MORTAL BANE BUFF...

and for a fs to have a 150% cdi kailangan nah deathblow diba?. . kaya nga sinabi ko deathblow is the key to ownage..

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agreed

baseline dapat ng FS or sword type FS is ATK:950+ DMG: 180+ AMP: 48+ RATE:53+

sir tanong kulang po san po ba ako lalamang sa total CDI ROF+9 2x o sa CD Ring +2 2x

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of course sa crit ring +2 bossing ^_^

you dont need deathblows weapons para makuha yang 150% cdi merong

3xcrit ring+2,1 mergamech ring and 1 perfect cdi helm+ur buffs and ur base cdi and ung skill na may cdi

maabot yan ng 200+ cdi so id go for Mitril weapons+6+7ssa kasi mas malaki ang base dmg

mag crit man or hindi masakit parin yan kaya mitril ang magandang weapon dyan

kung basedmg ang paguusapan sa rof+9 ka lalamang dyan
pero kung cdi dun ka sa crit ring+2

pero dipende parin kung magcricrit ka,kasi kung d ka naman magcricrit useless yang cdi.

unlike kapag rof+9 sa base dmg dumadagdag kaya kahit hindi magcrit ayos lang kasi masakit parin

see... 1 perfct cdi helm... deathblow yan dba??...
at kung ang mith di mag crit talo ka parin .. useless!

uu +10 attack lng dagdag sa base.. cguro mga 20 damage or less lng add dun kung pvp ...
kaya pumusta ka nlng sa crit.. kase kapag nag crit ung 15% ng crit ring +2 aabot ng 100+ dag dag sa damage un... think about it..

subukan nyu nalang sa damage calculator..

pero pra sa akin base damage ang pipiliin ko.. mtaas nga cdi mo.. eh kung mtaas din def ng klaban mo.. let's say around 1.1k def.. do u think mtaas prin ung crit damage ng 850 atk + 220% cdi?

pero kung nsa 1k atk ko kahit 130% lang cdi ko.. mlakas parin ung crit damage dahil ung input damage mo ay hindi naharang ng 1.1k def..

IMHO.. ang taas na ng cdi ng FS pra pilitin pang pataasin..